SBC Sucks!

After 8 months in my new house (to be specific 3 phone lines, 8 months of waiting, 14 phone calls, 1 personal visit, 4 management escalations, and one email) my SBC Alameda County phone books arrived today.

What made them extra special to me, personally, was the advertisement hot glued to the front of the white pages. Some ambulance chaser “helping the people” to get “what they deserve.”

Just another stunning example of how right the republicans are about the private sector being the perfect choice for administering our schools, general assistance, disability insurance and public utilities.

I will never see another Tommy Lee Jones film again. And whenever i hear his over confident voice begin to speak over my “home town phone company’s” television advertisements, i am going to change the channel.

better yet, voice over IP anyone?

28 Comments

  1. voip is great, but…
    it requires a large amount of bandwidth, generally, and it has a hollow voice quality. also, it can be subject to dropouts occasionally, and when your internet is out, your phone is out also.
    step carefully. and remember the engineers acronym for the usually better eq. KISS - keep it simple, stupid.
    erich
    *hating the ambulance chaisers also*

  2. 2 Monday, September 27, 2004 at 7:18 pm
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    I dunnoe about VOIP being anything but heaven sent. I just hear one glowing review after the other…

    Most recently:
    This weekend in LA my friend Chinkara said she recently switched over to voice over IP and loves it. She gets her voice mail messages as email mp3 clips from wherever she is in the world.

    pretty cool.

  3. 3
    Jim Helmer
    Wednesday, August 17, 2005 at 7:41 pm
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    As far as taking the cake on SUCKING, SBC takes it hands down. I moved back to Michigan from Florida I had yet the chance to experience their high standard of customer disservice AGAIN! I had Verizon which used to be GTE. I hated it, but i became to understand that Verizon just bought GTE’s mess. Verizon has been working diligently to replace GTE’s crappy technology. I commend them for that! Thank you Verizon! You’re truly improving and you wil show who rules in the telacommunications industry.

    Anyway, back to SBC. I have ALWAYS had crappy service from these idiots. I am refering to SBC Michigan in particular. Before deregulation of local service, they had a very very BAD ego problem. Basically SBC had you by the balls. You either accepted “service” from them or you just didn’t have a phone. Since deregulation, not much has changed.

    I moved from Florida to my new apartment. It took them FOUR trips to my new residence to FINALLY get my service running. This structure has been in existence for 50 years and does not have any additional lines ran through it. They even had the nerve to tell me they might charge me for having to do premises work. LOL! Ok…I’m sure they would have no troubles disconnecting my phone if I didn’t pay the bill LOL!

    Still having the bitter taste in my mouth from yet another disservice by SBC, I decided to switch my local service to MCI. Things were ok with MCI but SBC wooed me back with better pricing. HAHHAHA service still sucks.

    I am in the process of moving back to Florida….decided to have my number listed in the book this time. Figured I’d save a few dollars before the move. What a mistake. Within 48 hours of switching back to SBC, I was bombared with telemarketing calls…to the tune of 8-10 a day. Mind you, new directories had already been printed 2 months ago and distributed.

    SBC obviously gets kick backs for selling your number to telemarketers! I am SOOOOOOOOOOO happy I will be ditching these idiots They have done nothing but make me pay for headaches!

    For those who are NOT in the know, SBC has merged with what is left of AT&T. I heard from an AT&T employee directly, that bought the mainder of AT&T for the AT&T name. I guess SBC thinks they will “cash in” on the AT&T name. Problem folks is…you WILL receive sub standard service and you will be served with major attitude.

    For those who have LEFT SBC and are now with another carrier, you made the right choice. Don’t let SBC woo you with any too good to believe offers. The offers are just that! The service is still the same from SBC, DEPLORABLE!

    Anyone thinking of signing up with AT&T CallVantage, DSL beware…another one of SBC’s subsidiaries. I will eat 10,000 miles of Verizon’s shit before I would ever think of going back to SBC!

    Sincerely,

    James Helmer

    jimhelmer@aol.com

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    Jim Helmer
    Wednesday, August 17, 2005 at 7:46 pm
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    Oh and stay away from Cingular Wireless…that’s another subsidiary (joint venture) of Bell South & SBC. Same story there…BAD SERVICE!

  5. 5 Thursday, August 18, 2005 at 12:59 am
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    Jim you are singing my song!

  6. 6 Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 11:16 am
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    I thought the AT&T CallVantage was totally different company and had nothing to do with SBC.
    BTW SBC, in a nutshell, couldn’t suck any worse I don’t think well maybe……….

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    Henry
    Thursday, September 15, 2005 at 10:02 am
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    I signed SBC DSL service. It costs me about 50 dollars a month. I have to pay a phone line and DSL fee. (The phone line is meaningless to me because I have a cell phone.) Besides, for setting up, the modem equipment cost $100.

    After 11 months, I moved out and disconnected. Then I found that I have been charged $200 “Early Termination Fee”. I complained to them and their reply made me crazy.

    I didn’t know that until they took $200 bucks from my bank. The representative didn’t inform me when I tell them that I had to disconnected. I didn’t sign anything when I hooked up. I didn’t stop the payment, because as an international student, I can’t run the risk of legal issues.

    Now I am using Cable DSL. I only purchased the modem in Circuit City for about $60 (after rebate). Monthly fee is $35. (The fee will be $43 after 6 months.) Absolutely no commitment is required. It’s much much faster than phone DSL. The phone DSL is outdated, and it should not exist in the market.

    I hate SBC. It sucks.

    Bottom line: Don’t use phone DSL and don’t work with SBC.

  8. 8 Friday, September 16, 2005 at 8:21 pm
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    Well, After a year without SBC in my life. I can say this:

    You better dig your cable provider. DSL is not an option without copper wired lines in the house. So imagining leaving your cable company means pocketing your pride and sloping back to SBC for a land line.

    Otherwise, no hassles, no worries, and regular service that’s been delivered as promised at the price agreed. Rare indeed.

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    High Sierras
    Sunday, October 9, 2005 at 2:50 pm
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    I agree that SBC sucks big time. Their service is always dished out with a big attitude. (Why is that?) I complained 3 times to the local BBB, and each time got a rambling letter from some uneducated SBC rep that did not address my complaint at all. And then they put some notes on their computer about me, so that as soon as I call them up for service, they look through their notes and their tone changes to PURE HATE. I’ve complained about this treatement, even wrote a letter to the local President of SBC. They don’t care because they have a total monopoly in my city! There is no one else you can get a dial tone from!

    To top it off, their repair service is lazy and lies to customers. They don’t turn your phone on when they promise, and then they blame it on your apartment building. This has happened to me every, single time, I move. Three days later, they finally turn it on and then charge me for a visit they never made. THEY LIE. To top it all off, the repair men called me four times AND HUNG UP ON ME when the phone finally got turned on. My landlords have all said this is very common with them. My landlords have said their repairmen are lazy and liars. But if I tell this to one of the customer service reps. she hangs up on me.

    I can’t tell you how many times I have been placed on permanent hold to listen to music just because the reps don’t like what they hear about their company. The last one said, “How dare you talk about MY COMPANY that way!” and hung up on me.

    SBC needs to be taken down a notch. BAD.

  10. 10 Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 3:04 pm
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    I have had it up to here with SBC. I agree with every one of you and I have had similar experiences with this company. The service is HORRIBLE and the customer service reps will not hesitate to place you on hold forever if you express frustration. It is unbelieveable that a company would treat its customers like this. The only reason I have a land line is because I live in a hilly area where my cell reception is nonexistent until I drive closer to town. My cable company has yet to offer digital phone service but I am seriously considering it when they do or VOIP.

  11. 11 Wednesday, November 2, 2005 at 5:21 am
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    sbc is very shady, you know they put that 200 penalty in small print so most will not notice that if you cancel even 11 month into your service, you be billed this amount still. i mean they treat people like their stupid and like to hide the fact that they like to lure you in with low prices, and if you are disatisfied for any reason later even if the service is crap. you must be us unconditionally. i’m sure more people hate sbc they they do hate me because of their unfair practice. it is not about satisfying consumer it is about controlling them through any means. I gotta have broadband, but I don’t want to put up their attitude and their sub par service
    big corporation are all about control and they tend to get meaner as they grow bigger.
    what’s funny is that i asked the csr if I can cancel without recurring any extra charges and he said no, but after a month 200.00 came! wtf? is that crazy or what? so then I signed for another years of services asked if they would remove that charges and they agreed………… voila! 30 x 12 = 360 + 12 x 2.48= 389.76 that’s 6 month of service had i not agree to another years of service. yes they suck because after 1 year it will revert to 59.99 + 4.96 FUSF woohoo! Why don’t they give me a break and just let me stay forever at 29.95 at this speed? when it’s time to renew, I have two choice, to cancel service or to renew at their new stupid price of 31.99 for 6 months then 39.99 after… what a turn off :(
    what can i say? but I guess it would stay at 39.99 indefnitely, that is the only good thing.

  12. 12 Thursday, November 3, 2005 at 5:59 pm
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    I’ve come across the same thing, both with Cingular (left ‘em for Verizon), and SBC (waiting to leave them for Comcast).

    as much as comcast sucks, sbc definitely take the cake.

    At least with comcast you’re free to leave and 24/7 tech support. With SBC (business hours only, and 2 year contract).

    F-that.

  13. 13 Thursday, November 3, 2005 at 6:00 pm
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    ps - my suggestion? Comcast (or basic phone+dsl no contract) and VOIP (packet8.net or vonage.com).

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    keith
    Saturday, November 5, 2005 at 3:31 pm
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    gotta love google, i type in sbc crappy repair service and get a number of hits! do sbc repair techs work on commission? i haven’t had to call a repair tech in years, their phone in service for a repair call was ok - however the repair tech needs to listen to their own outgoing message that clearly states the customer will be informed if there are any charges BEFORE any work is done. not in this case, repair tech looks in box - says the problems in my line & i will be billed $50. when i inform him of their outgoing message “uh, never mind.”

    then he talks about hourly charges to fix the line, and when i decline he does a song & dance to sell me “wire service.” “no thanks.” and with that i tell him to just leave everything as it was before he arrived. with that he went to the box & promptly returns with another “that’s $50″ scheme. geesh…

    i emailed sbc to whine - whatta a waste of time that was.

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    locky
    Thursday, December 15, 2005 at 9:29 am
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    sbc is the worst possible provider one can imagine. after two full years’ of subscription, sbc tricked me into signing up another 1-year contract with a special rate of $26.95. it was a phone conversation and sbc never mailed any printed confirmation to me. as i travelled a lot, i didn’t pay attention to the amount i paid. one day, i discovered that sbc has been charging me the full amount of $49.99. the agreed amount of $26.95 was a complete lie. i was so angry about that. and sbc claimed no mistake on their part. they accused me in turn for not having reported the mistake in the first place, and not having kept any written records (something they never sent out). and guess what? they claimed that they had no way to verify what i had signed up.

    SCREW SBC!!!!!!!!

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    Eric
    Saturday, December 17, 2005 at 2:13 pm
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    My SBC phone line at home has excessive static at SBC and I can’t even call in to reach a live person to help me. When I call Customer Service from my home phone, they can’t hear what I’m saying. And when I call Customer Service from an external line, after I enter my home phone number, I can’t reach an English-speaking operator because my account is somehow linked to a Chinese operator. SBC sucks my big fat hairy cock.

    - Eric

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    ma bell hater
    Wednesday, January 18, 2006 at 10:30 am
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    Ive been a sbc technician for 26 years, and I can tell everyone that sbc sucks big time. My new superviser hasnt a clue what I do for a living!! The company is run so bad, that if it wasnt a monopoly, it’d go out of business. Management is such a joke. The bottom line is, its designed to make the ceo $$ and not deal with customer satifaction (or employee satifaction for that matter) . Im retiring early cause I cant stand this company any more. I highly recommend that you all boycott sbc, like Im going to.

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    Trey
    Thursday, February 9, 2006 at 8:50 am
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    My company uses an SBC T-1 but pay another company that leases it from SBC. The T-1 went down. For a freaking Week. Three Tech came out all of them were complete idiots. They would get it working for about an hour. Finally a tech came at 7 at night after i got home and was eating dinner so i told him over my cell where the dmark was to fix the T-1. Oh he fixed it and in the process shut down my PRI aaaaaaahhhhhhhhahahahahahahahahahahahah I now have no freaking phones. I have tried calling everybody and everybody has treated me like crap. Not to mention that it took me 30 minutes just to find the number and navigate through the crappy autoattendent. I probally be fired today THANKS SBC They should make a first person shooter where you can go into the SBC Corporate offices. It would probally make me feel better.

  19. 19 Thursday, February 9, 2006 at 3:46 pm
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    Another update:

    Recently my Vonage router began to blink…

    No more dial tone.

    I spent a few hours total on the phone with tech support. They were deeply clueless, and tried to sell me a new router for $100. I bought one myself for $39 and it did the same thing.

    So, for whatever reason, there’s some issue with my connection and i have no phone. Vonage say it’s the router (it’s not) Comcast says it’s Vonage (which i think it is) and they won’t email me back…

    Sad… Vonage is such a good idea.

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    Stephen Klein
    Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 7:23 pm
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    SBC SUCKS bigtime. After signing on to their sbc long distance for a 1 year contract fron Nov 2004 to Nov 2005, I decided that it just wasn’t worth it. Besides they offered no DSL in the area and the only way to get fast internet was with cable. After my contract was up, I decided to go with the cable company for everything - TV,cable modem and phone service in Dec 2005 - a whole month AFTER the contract was up. What do you think I got in the mail - a final bill for 119.00 for early termination. When did I sign up for another year? I DIDN”T!!! So I called and complained and they took it off the bill but I was having it automatically taken out of my checking account each month. So I wanted to make sure it wasn’t going to be taken out automatically, so I went to the web site and sure enough it was slated for withdrawal - so I cancelled it, thinking it was over. Was it over? Hell NO! Now I get phone calls & letters from some law firm in California threatening me with court action if I don’t pay up - sounds just like extortion the good ole mafia way. SBC, stick it where the sun don’t shine

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    sennoma
    Wednesday, March 1, 2006 at 9:04 pm
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    Maybe this is more info than you wanted, but just to let you know that others are continually battling SWB/SBC/AT&T on other fronts, here is an article that was recently submitted to a telcom magazine:

    AT&T: the 800lb Monkey on the Back of Competition
    By Paul J. Stautzenberger
    February 20, 2006

    SBC Communications, Inc., which now calls itself AT&T, has once again gained the status of Premier Communications Monopoly. Even the recent Dallas case of Southwestern Bell Telephone, L.P. vs CBS, LLC, et. al., where the Jury award of $350,000 in attorney’s fees against the colossal despot fails to slow this behemoth in its crusade to regain its old kingdom and literally destroy anyone that gets in their way.1 AT&T hired Texas Super Lawyer Barry F. McNeil,2 Kathleen Beasley, and Bill Morrison of Haynes & Boone, LLP, Dallas, Texas, with in-house counsel Javier Aguilar and Paul A. Drummond of AT&T, San Antonio, Texas. CBS, LLC and three other defendants3 were represented by Sean T. Hamada of Sean T. Hamada, P.C., and Bill Camp of Camp Trial Group, both from Dallas, Texas. In January of this year, after a week long trial in which AT&T spent an estimated $2 million in attorney’s fees in an alleged effort to recover $250 thousand from CBS, the Jury just didn’t buy it. The lawsuit was seen for what it was: AT&T’s attempt to teach their competitors the lesson that David should not to mess with this 800lb Goliath. In other words, not even Super Lawyers and millions of dollars can hide the fact that AT&T tries to win, not with fair competition, but rather with shear size and might.

    ‘Ma Bell’ the Grand Ole Monopoly
    Monopoly and AT&T have been synonymous terms for nearly a century. When you think of telephones, the first person that pops to mind is Alexander Graham Bell who invented the telephone on Mar 10, 1876.4 In 1885, the Bell Telephone Company formed the original American Telephone and Telegraph Company.5 When Bell’s patents began to expire in 1893, American entrepreneurial spirit created the independent telephone industry.6 By 1903, free and open competition had put 2 million phones into service verses the 1.2 million in service by ‘Ma Bell’, the maternal nickname of Bell’s telephone system.7 In a single decade, private enterprise was able to garner a larger customer base than Bell. Yet, that is turned around when an aggressive acquisition program put in place by AT&T CEO Theodore Vail, reminiscent of a Mafia protection scam, and brings AT&T under investigation by the Justice Department. This results in AT&T settling its first federal anti-trust suit by becoming a government-sanctioned monopoly in 1913.8 The Kingsbury Commitment as this settlement was called, separated the telegraph monopoly from the telephone monopoly on the idea that industry specific mini-monopolies were better than one huge single monopoly.9 Vail saw telecommunications as a natural monopoly.10 Vail’s dream was realized, and
    also the death of competition in the telephone industry.

    Microwaves verses Copper Wire
    1934 sees AT&T placed under the newly established Federal Communications Commission.11 By this time, AT&T owns four out of every five telephones in the country, its long distance network ties together the country’s telephone system and nearly every major city is served by a Bell telephone company.12 By the end of the following decade, the Justice Department is filing anti-trust charges against the giant telephone company for the second time.13 In 1956, AT&T settles it’s second anti-trust suit bringing it back into telephone industry only business activity.14 That entrepreneurial
    spirit that America is known for world-wide makes a breakthrough again, when private enterprises begin suing for fair competition before the FCC. In 1959, the FCC’s Above 890 decision found that an adequate number of microwave frequencies were available to serve both common carrier and private networks.15 This led to the famous Carterfone Decision where the FCC affirming the right of telephone users to connect private communications equipment to the AT&T network.16 Competition once again begins in 1969, after nearly 6 decades of monopoly, when Microwave Communications of America (now known as MCI) is granted a license to install and operate an interstate microwave link between Chicago and St. Louis.17

    Death of ‘Ma Bell’
    Yet, Ma Bell didn’t intend on giving up their guaranteed profit machine without a fight. The year 1974 brought federal anti-trust suits by MCI and the Justice Department against AT&T for violations of the Sherman Anti-trust Act.18 MCI won their massive Anti-trust case against AT&T in 1980.19 The Justice Department, however, continued their suit. On January 8, 1982, the Consent Decree was entered into between DOJ and AT&T, thus settling AT&T’s third major anti-trust case with the government.20 The settlement provided for the divestiture plan where AT&T Long Lines (long distance services) would be separated from the local Bell operating companies (local phone services).21 U.S. District Judge Harold Greene, who had presided over the DOJ suit against AT&T, entered the Modified Final Judgment effective January 1, 1984 whereby AT&T and the Baby Bells would be broken up into separate companies.22 In the MFJ, telephone users would be allowed to select and access any long distance company that they wanted. Competition began to
    explode with the number of long distance companies growing by the day.

    Rise and Fall of Public Payphones
    Pay telephone stations preceded the invention of the pay phone and existed as early as 1878. These stations were supervised by telephone company attendants or agents (such as an employee in a hotel where a station might be located) who collected the money due after people made their calls.23 The first public coin telephone was installed by inventor William Gray at a bank in Hartford, Conn in 1889. It was a “postpay” machine (coins were deposited after the call was placed).24 Necessity being the mother of invention, Almon Strowger, an undertaker, patented his automatic switching system in 1891 to prevent the operator from directing business to his competitors.25 The Western Electric No. 5 Coin Collector, the first automatic “prepay” station, went into use in Chicago in 1898.26 The depositing of coins before placing a call would gradually become the norm in pay phones until the introduction of “dial tone first” service in 1966. By 1902, there were 81,000 pay telephones in the United States.27 After the 1913 Kingsbury commitment, the independent pay telephone industry came to an end. All pay telephones would be operated by The Phone Company. Jump forward to Judge Greene’s MFJ in 1984 when the independent payphone industry is reborn.28

    Payphones Create Competition
    One of the early companies to enter the payphone industry was a company called Canyon Services, Inc. Even though AT&T had technically separated from the Bell operating companies, payphones still had AT&T selected as the long distance carrier. Judge Greene’s order included the rights of the businesses where payphones were located to choose any long distance carrier they wanted. Companies like Canyon Services entered into pre-subscription agreements with small businesses that created the ability to collectively bargain with different long distance companies.29 The businesses then got to share in the revenues that payphones generated, effectively being compensated for having a public payphone at their business.

    Beginning of the Long Battle
    Southwestern Bell Telephone Company (now AT&T again) attempted to stall and prevent other carriers from being selected for SWB payphones. In 1993, Canyon Services sued SWB in the case styled Canyon Services, Inc. vs Southwestern Bell Telephone Company. The two companies negotiated a deal to facilitate future business, and the lawsuit was settled under confidential terms.30 Charles Sullivan, then Canyon Services Vice President of Sales, saw on the face of the giant that no concept of fair competition would be allowed. The deal we made was an oral agreement, which is still a contract, but now it would be a he saidshe said argument, said Sullivan.31 SWB reneged on their agreement, and Canyon Services business would never recover. This would be the beginning of a long personal battle for Sullivan.

    Private Payphones Create Innovations
    In 1991, Charles Sullivan, Sonny Coleman, and Larry Fuqua, all of whom had been associates at Canyon Services, formed a Texas independent payphone company called Payphone Providers, Inc. Payphone Providers would install, operate, collect, repair and maintain their own payphones on business’ properties. They got their start by offering payphones to businesses that SWB had not wanted to put payphones. Using technology called ‘Smart Phones’, we were able to constantly monitor our payphones via a computer network, recalls Sullivan.32 This innovation meant that Payphone Providers could respond to problems at the phone, such as a coin jam, much faster than SWB could. It also meant that they could offer lower rates than SWB. When SWB was still charging $2.15 for one minute to call 30 miles away, we offered the public the rate of $1 for four minutes to call anywhere in the USA, Sullivan touts.33 Without borrowing a single cent, the owners of Payphone Providers grew their business to $500,000 in annual sales. But this growth was countered with SWB’s monopoly tactics at every turn, as Payphone Providers still had to buy access to the telephone network from SWB. Sullivan and partners finally threw in the towel and sold their company in 1995.

    A New Territory Opens Up
    After the 1984 divestiture of AT&T, each State’s regulatory agencies decided when and how independent payphone providers would enter the market. Oklahoma was one of the last States to decide. The Oklahoma Corporation Commission held hearings in 1996 to determine who would be licensed to do business as a payphone provider in their state. The very first such company was Coinlink, LLC.34 Coinlink, LLC was formed when Sullivan located numerous partners to help raise capital to fund a payphone company in Oklahoma. Southwestern Bell reacted to Congress’ Telecommunications Act of 1996 with a whole new tactic that they called the 95 payphone blitz, which was to stop the bleeding and in a euphemism that only can come from a monopoly giant, to keep Bessy the cash cow’s milk flowing. This maneuver was to cajole businesses with SWB payphones to enter into long term exclusive agreements to keep the business from switching to a more modern payphone company until well into the 21st century. This was done in Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas and Texas, the five states that SWB controlled at the time, but curiously Ameritech did not institute this practice until after they were acquired by SWB. In Oklahoma this began before any other independent company was yet licensed to operate. In Illinois where Ameritech operated, the ratio of phone company owned payphones to independants was 50:50. In Missouri, just across the state line where SWB
    operated, it was 80:20. So, if small businesses didn’t agree with SWB they would loose their payphone service altogether. When many new Oklahoma payphone companies entered the market and discovered that their ability to compete was effectively crushed, they joined together and sued SWB in Federal District Court. The other payphone companies involved were Telecore Communications, Inc, Advanced Communications, Inc., Americall, Oklahoma
    Heartland Payphone Services, Owens Communications, Payphone Plus, LLC, Redlands Communications, Inc., and Sooner Telecommunications, Inc.

    Goliath in the Court Room
    The attorneys Robert D. Edinger, Jonathan E. Miller and Linda G. Kaufmann of Edinger & Blakely, P.C. represented the payphone companies in a match that could have been taken from the script of the movie A Civil Action with John Travolta where the lawyers are nearly bankrupted by tricks and maneuvering of SWB’s attorney’s.35 But, unlike the movie this case styled Telecor Communications. Inc., et. al. vs Southwestern Bell Telephone Company was argued until 2000 when the Jury awarded $7.2 million in damages to the independent payphone companies. Under Federal Anti-trust Statutes, the Jury’s award is trebled to $21.6 million. SWB, now represented by Donald L. Flexner, Scott E. Gant, and David A. Barrett of Bois,
    Schiller & Flexner, LLP of Washington, D.C. (the same firm that represented Al Gore before the Supreme Court in the 2000 Presidential Election dispute) and D. Kent Meyers and Richard C. Ford of Crowe & Dunlevy, Oklahoma City, OK, appealed to the 10th Ciruit Court of Appeals.36 When the 10th Circuit affirmed, SWB sought review by the Supreme Court who refused to hear the case. SWB’s final payout to the Oklahoma payphone providers including interest and attorney’s fees exceeded $30 million. Afterwards Sullivan says he had a conversation with SWB’s Vice President Mark Keopp where Keopp told me that Bell will not change anything as a result of the Oklahoma lawsuit.37 SWB spokesman Walt Sharp said “SBC continues to believe that we have acted properly in all matters related to payphone competition in Oklahoma and everywhere else in our region of coverage.”38 They just don’t get it. SWB is found guilty by a Jury, fined $30 million dollars, and they still believe they can do no wrong.

    Bell Does It Again
    Sullivan and new partners start over in Texas. They formed Comchoice, Inc. in 1997 and begin installing payphones throughout central Texas. Soon after, they were approached by Houston based Clipper Telecommunications, Inc., a company that wanted to leave the payphone market. Comchoice ended up buying Clipper in late 1997.39 Comchoice grew to over 1600 payphones in Texas in record pace. However, true to SWB and Keopp’s word SWB used their
    dirty-trick monopoly tactics to target the new companies that Sullivan was involved in. In 2001, Comchoice and 16 other Texas independent payphone providers sued SWB in the case styled Comchoice, Inc. et. al. vs Southwestern Bell Telephone Company.40 After the case began, 3 more payphone companies joined the suit. In addition to Comchoice and Clipper, Extra Effort Payphones, Teletrust, Inc., Eagle Payphones, Inc., U.S. Tele-Coin Corporation, Southwestern Tel Com, Inc., L & J Enterprises, Langkop Communications, The Vending Equipment Network, Telenational, Inc., Coin Telecom Systems, Communications Systems International, Inc., N-Tel Communications, Inc., Payphone Management Company, Com-Tech Systems, National Payphones Company, Inc., Public Pay Phone Systems, D & B Telephone, Inc., and Robert Nicholas were payphone companies in the lawsuit. This time the independent payphone companies were represented by Steve Susman, Barry Barnett, Mark Evetts (now a partner with Berg & Androphy), JJ Hopkins, and Michael Fritz of Susman Godfrey, L.P., Houston, Texas, John R. MacLean and Dan Boulware of Maclean & Boulware, Cleburne, Texas, and Curtis E. Pritchard of
    Lummus, Hallman, Pritchard & Baker, P.C., Cleburne, Texas. SWB was again represented by Donald L. Flexner of Bois, Schiller & Flexner, LLP of Washington, D.C., and also by Barry F. McNeil, Ronald W. Breaux, and Ashley Brown of Haynes and Boone, LLP, Dallas, Texas and J. Greg Coontz of Law Offices of J. Greg Coontz, Burleson, Texas. This case lasted until the end of 2003. In the meantime, Comchoice and Clipper were both forced to sell all the payphones that they had installed.41 On December 16, 2003, the Texas independent payphone providers settled their suit under confidential terms.42

    Monkey on the Back
    During the Comchoice case, Sullivan was asked to reveal every company that he had stock or ownership in. CBS, LLC was another Texas pre-paid calling card company that Sullivan owned a minority interest in. CBS also offered payphones in specialty locations such as Half-way houses under contract with the Texas Department of Criminal Justice, the Toyota Center for the Houston Rockets and Aeros, and Reliant Park for the Texans and the Houston Live Stock Show & Rodeo. On December 18, 2003, just two days after settling the Comchoice case, SWB started its retaliation against Sullivan (even though Sullivan wasn’t involved in CBS’ daily operations) by disconnecting dial-tone on CBS payphones. For each payphone that SWB subsequently would repair by reconnecting dial-tone, they would disconnect another payphone. Back in July 2003, Sullivan had talked with a number of Kansas and Missouri payphone companies to see if SWB was treating them the same way. In fact they were, and in March 2004, 11 payphone companies from Texas, Missouri and Kansas filed suit against SWB for anti-trust violations. The case was styled Superior Payphones, Ltd. vs Southwestern Bell Telephone Company.43 A month later, in April 2004, CBS joined the suit against SWB. The payphone companies involved in this suit are Superior Payphones, Ltd., Lindeman Communications, Coyote Call Payphones, Sunset Enterprises, Incorporated, Precision Communications, KC Telecom, Inc., Payphone Concepts, Inc., Joltran Communications, Corp., Tel-Pro, Inc., Commercial Communications Services, LLC, and CBS, LLC. The independent payphone companies this time were represented by Tony Buzbee, JJ Hopkins and Christopher K. Johns of The Buzbee Law Firm, Galveston, Texas and Aaron I. Vela of Law Offices of Aaron I. Vela, P.C., Edinberg, Texas. SWB was represented by Donald L. Flexner, Scott E. Gant, and Hershel A. Wancjer of Bois, Schiller & Flexner, LLP of Washington, D.C., Richardo G. Cedillo of Davis Cedillo & Mendoza, Inc., San Antonio, Texas, Carlos Guerra of Guerra & Moore, McAllen, Texas, and Javier Aguilar and Paul A. Drummond of Southwestern Bell Telephone, L.P. (now called AT&T), San Antonio, Texas.44

    The Retaliation of the 800lb Monkey
    On learning that CBS joined the Superior suit, SWB filed a retaliatory lawsuit against CBS, Comchoice, Clipper Telecommunications, against Charles Sullivan personally, against The Buzbee Law Firm and against JJ Hopkins personally in Dallas, Texas in the case styled Southwestern Bell
    Telephone, L.P. vs CBS, LLC, et. al.45 Note that this suit is not a counter-suit against the CBS, but rather a strategy taken by SWB to warn attorneys not to represent Sullivan or any company that he has any ownership interest in regardless of how small. Sullivan, Comchoice, Clipper
    Telecommunications, and CBS now retain new counsel, a former CLEC owner and solo practitioner, Sean T. Hamada of Sean T. Hamada, P.C., Dallas, Texas. (A CLEC is short for Competitive Local Exchange Carrier, a telephone company that competes with an incumbent local exchange carrier such as SWB.)46 Prior to trial, Hamada assembles a trial team, including trial lawyer Bill Camp of Camp Trial Group, Dallas, Texas, to assist him against SWBs team of lawyers Barry F. McNeil, Kathleen Beasley, and Bill Morrison of Haynes & Boone, LLP, Dallas, Texas, and in-house counsel Javier Aguilar and Paul A. Drummond of AT&T, San Antonio, Texas. After a week long Jury trial in January 2006, where AT&T spends an estimated $2 million in attorneys fees in an alleged effort to recover $250 thousand from CBS and Sullivan personally, CBS and Sullivan defeat all of SWBs claims and the jury awards them $350K for legal fees. Claims against The Buzbee Firm and JJ Hopkins are denied by the Judge and never make it to the Jury. Haynes & Boones legal fees through December of 2005 were over $854,000 alone.47 These fees most likely doubled through conclusion of trial at the end of January 2006. SWB claimed the law firm of Bois, Schiller & Flexner had also billed them over $700,000 in defending SWB from CBS in the Superior case through the same time frame. In contrast, Sean Hamada and Bill Camp’s legal fees combined were only $300 thousand through trial. Clearly SWB summoned its vast resources to craft and pursue a retaliation lawsuit designed to make Sullivan and CBS spend money, time, and effort defending frivolous claims, disrupt the anti-trust lawsuit against SWB in Hidalgo County [the Superior case], and to drive CBS out of business, says Hamada. That message seemed to resonate with the jury, Hamada recalled.48 While SWB lost in almost every count, they did succeed in driving CBS out of the payphone
    business. To survive through trial and contend with SWB’s repeated attacks and monopoly tricks on CBS payphones, CBS had sold or was in the process of selling all but 25 payphones by the time they made it to trial.

    A Ray of Hope
    To date, the Superior case in Hidalgo County, Texas has not yet gone to trial. All of the complaining independent payphone providers are small ‘mom & pop’ operations. Most all of them are less then 500 payphones each. They include 2 Texas companies, 5 from Missouri, and 4 from Kansas. The new AT&T only continues the monopoly tactics they were found guilty of in Oklahoma when they still called themselves Southwestern Bell Telephone Company:
    1. Saturating market by placing phones every where they can;
    2. Imposing long term restrictive contracts on small business owners;
    3. Using its advantage as the incumbent phone service provider (local dial-tone) to lock up the best locations;
    4. Creating a maze of arbitrary and discriminatory rules and procedures with which location owners and independent payphone providers’ (IPP) have to comply with in order to attempt to get SWB dial-tone service and sometimes SWB payphones removed;
    5. Using IPP’s requests for service and accompanying letters of agency as a sales lead to try to convince the customer to not switch service, even though this is in direct conflict with the regulations set forth by FCC under Telecom Act of 1996;
    6. Using dirty trick’s such as removing concrete pads and posts and cutting wires short to make it more expensive for competition to install new service;
    7. Using different means of transmitting digits to secure dial around compensation where SWB collects over 90% of their dial around and other companies can only hope to collect about 40-50%.

    When this case goes to trial, AT&T and it’s million dollar Super Lawyers will have to convince a Hidalgo County Jury that the profits of a giant are more important than the fair competition of the small businesses on whose shoulders America was built. The Dallas County Jury didn’t think so, and neither will the Hidalgo County Jury.

    But Hope for How Long?
    On January 1, 1984, AT&T was broken up into 8 different companies because of violations of U.S. Anti-trust laws.49 Of those companies, only Bell South remains. Qwest bought U.S. West. Verizon is the result of the merger of NYNEX, Bell Atlantic, GTE and MCI. And, the new AT&T is the recombination of AT&T Long Distance, Southwestern Bell, Ameritech, and Pacific Telesis Group, making it once again the largest phone company in the world. The Verizon & MCI merger along with the SBC & AT&T merger recreate a majority of the company that the Justice Department back in 1972 tried to break apart. Before, the monopoly was just with telephones, now it will be with telephones, cell phones, cable, and internet. Our justice system in the United States has laws specifically to prevent unfair competition and monopolization. Enforcement is expensive and difficult as the big companies have deep pockets. Sullivan commented after the Dallas trial, “The last 2 years have been particularly difficult on myself and my family. Bell’s
    tactics clearly were to disqualify my lawyers by naming them defendants, and forcing me to acquire outside counsel. Sullivan further lamented, My family’s savings have been wiped out by the attorney’s fees. Our only hope is to recover the attorney’s fees awarded in Dallas County and for a successful trial in Hidalgo County. Sullivan was certain however that SWB would appeal any verdicts, meaning it may be years before he sees any relief even if he does win. As for Sullivan’s future in the payphone business, CBS, LLC will not be in the payphone business when that trial takes place in Hidalgo as we have had to sell almost all of our assets to pay the bills.”50 Without competition, there can be no freedom; without competition there can be no hope.

    1 Southwestern Bell Telephone, L.P. v. CBS, LLC et. al., Cause No. 04-04222; 44th District Court, Dallas County, Texas.
    2 Bradley B. Clark, Texas Law Blog, Google, 2003, URL http://texaslaw.blogspot.com/archives/2003_10_01_texaslaw_archive.html#106735684212528432
    3 Southwestern Bell Telephone, L.P. v. CBS, LLC et. al., ibid; CBS, LLC, Comchoice, Inc., Clipper Telecommunications, Inc. and Charles Sullivan were represented by Sean T. Hamada, P.C.; and at trial Comchoice, Inc., and Clipper Telecommunications, Inc. were represented by Camp Trial Group.
    4 Robert Jones, Milestones in Telegraphic History, W5TU, 1987, URL http://members.tripod.com/morse_telegraph_club/images/newpage1.htm
    5 Charles L. Brown, “Encyclopedia of Telecommunications”, (Marcel Dekker, Inc., 1991)
    6 GTE: The Largest Independent, Verizon Communications, 2004, URL http://investor.verizon.com/profile/history/history_004.html
    7 People’s Guide to the Telecommunications Act of 2006, Alliance for Community Media, 2005, URL http://www.cctv.org/cmrtimeline.htm
    8 The History of Verizon Communications, Verizon Communications, 2003, URL http://investor.verizon.com/profile/history/verizonhistory.pdf
    9 Adam D. Thierer , UNNATURAL MONOPOLY: CRITICAL MOMENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BELL SYSTEM MONOPOLY , The Cato Journal, Volume 14 Number 2 (Fall 1994), URL http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cjv14n2-6.html
    10 AT&T, Caslon Analytics, 2004, URL http://www.ketupa.net/att.htm
    11 Robert Jones, ibid.
    12 David Massey, Timeline of the Legal History of Telecommunications and the Divestiture of AT&T, 2003, URL http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/att_divestiture.html
    13 Carl Bybee, Systems Development Models, U of Oregon, 1998, URL http://jcomm.uoregon.edu/~cbybee/j201/models.htm
    14 David Massey, ibid.
    15 Ibid.
    16 Butrica, Andrew J., Ed., SP-4217 Beyond the Ionosphere, NASA History Office, 1997, URL http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4217/contents.htm
    17 D. Hopper, Telephone Tutorial: The History of Telephony & the Creation of the Bell Co., 2002, URL
    http://128.220.215.178/telecommunications/770.512/Common_files/TelephonyBasics/ TelephoneTutorial/tutor.htm
    18 Ibid.
    19 Butrica, Andrew J., Ed., Ibid.
    20 Carl Bybee, ibid.
    21 D. Hopper, ibid.
    22 Ibid.
    23 Highlights in Pay Phone History, AT&T, 1998, URL http://www.att.com/news/1091/911002.csa.html
    24 Ibid.
    25 Operator - Get off the line!, 2003, URL http://www.connected-earth.com/Journeys/Howitworks/
    Telephone/Networks/AlmonBrownStrowger/almonbrownstrowger(1839-1902).htm
    26 Highlights in Pay Phone History, AT&T, 1998, URL http://www.att.com/news/1091/911002.csa.html
    27 Ibid.
    28 Implementation of the Pay Telephone Reclassification and Compensation Provisions of the Telecommunications Act of 1996, CC Docket No. 96-128 and No. 91-35, (September 20, 1996); Report and Order, 11 FCC 20541 (1996), p. 10.
    29 Sonny Coleman, President, Canyon Services, Inc., Canyon Lake, Texas, January 20, 2006.
    30 Ibid.
    31 Charles Sullivan, Canyon Lake, Texas, January 20, 2006.
    32 Ibid.
    33 Ibid.
    34 Charles Sullivan, Canyon Lake, Texas, January 30, 2006.
    35 A Civil Action, Internet Movie Database Inc., 2006, URLhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120633/.
    36 Telecor Communs., Inc. v. Southwestern Bell Tel. Co., 305 F.3d 1124.
    37 Charles Sullivan, ibid.
    38 SBC loses appeal on $20M antitrust settlement, American City Business Journals, Inc., 2003, URL http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/stories/2003/05/19/daily5.html
    39 Charles Sullivan, ibid.
    40 ComChoice, Inc. et al. v. Southwestern Bell Telephone Co., Cause No. C-2001-00072, 413th Judicial District, Johnson County, Texas.
    41 Charles Sullivan, ibid.
    42 ComChoice, Inc. et al. v. Southwestern Bell Telephone Co., ibid.
    43 Superior Payphones, Ltd. vs Southwestern Bell Telephone Company, Cause No. C-416-04-B; 93rd Judicial District, Hidalgo County, Texas.
    44 Superior Payphones, Ltd. vs Southwestern Bell Telephone Company, ibid.
    45 Southwestern Bell Telephone, L.P. v. CBS, LLC et. al., ibid.
    46 CLEC, Webopedia, 2006, URL http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/C/CLEC.html
    47 Southwestern Bell Telephone, L.P. v. CBS, LLC et. al., ibid.
    48 Sean T. Hamada, Dallas, Texas, January 24, 2006.
    49 D. Hopper, Telephone Tutorial: The History of Telephony & the Creation of the Bell Co., 2002, URL
    http://128.220.215.178/telecommunications/770.512/Common_files/TelephonyBasics/ TelephoneTutorial/tutor.htm
    50 Charles Sullivan, ibid.

  22. 22 Wednesday, March 1, 2006 at 9:32 pm
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    Yes, I have been musing lately on how ironic it is that the monopoly has all but reformed.
    how little ground we gain… and yet how much we stand to lose.

    pretty sad.

  23. 23
    Jennifer Laycock
    Tuesday, March 14, 2006 at 10:34 am
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    Add me to the list. Not only will I never use SBC again, but I’ll be emailing and blogging to everyone I know to let them know what happened.

    My husband and I signed up for Yahoo! SBC DSL in February of 2005. When i spoke with the sales person, I specifically asked if I would be charged the termination of service fee if I moved to a new area where SBC doesn’t offer service. I was told that no, I would not, because obviously, if I moved to a new location that didn’t offer SBC I would have no way to continue the services. SBC had a good price for DSL, so we signed up.

    Flash forward to December of 2005. We’ve bought a new house and are moving. I call SBC and find out that they don’t offer service in our new location, so I sign up with Sprint.

    Now, in March, I get a notice from SBC that they are sending us to collections because we have not paid $107.46 of our “termination fee.” (Apparently we overpaid our last bill and they took that payment to put toward the $200)

    I call and explain the situation and am told that management will have to deal with it and that someone will call me back within 48 hours. 96 hours later, with no call, I call SBC again. I’m told that the bill has been reviewed and it stands because their TOS states that the only way the termination fee will be waived is if I’ve moved to an SBC area where they don’t offer DSL.

    In other words…who cares if you moved to Egypt, you still owe us $200.

    What makes this worse is that we had just two months left on our account at $25 a month. I would have happily paid out the last two months worth of service and called it quits, but they wouldn’t even give me that as an option.

    What makes this worse is that the first person I spoke to when I called back today, Bianca, was rude to me, interrupted me multiple times and refused to transfer me to a manager until the third time that I asked. The final person I spoke with, “Mrs. Jackson” basically said “well I’m sorry that you were told that, but it doesn’t matter.”

    So be aware. Not only does SBC have a ridiculous termination policy, but apparently their sales staff is not beyond lying to you in order to get you signed up.

  24. 24 Friday, April 14, 2006 at 11:00 am
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    Just try to get SBC to fix your nonfunctioning phone line. You will spend hours going through automated systems that keep asking you the same questions. Once you get hold of a human being you sent into another series of autosystems. You can literally waste hours trying to simply report a problem. Then they finally send someone out. They will tell you the problem is fixed ( in our case heavy static noise on the line) and it will start all over again in a day or two. Then you are back to wasting hours on the phone again trying to find someone to help.

  25. 25
    yojimbo
    Monday, May 22, 2006 at 3:19 pm
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    so, here’s what i know………

    like (it seems) almost everyone else, i’ve had lots of probs with the SBC / AT&T conglomerate. when i first moved back to Ohio from PA, i was shocked to learn that in my new neighborhood, there was only one choice for a phone line. (yeah, as others have noted — whatever happened to the “end of the monopoly”??) so, i signed up with Ameritech. service sucked, and their was so much interference on the line half the time that you couldn’t even really have a phone conversation. as soon as i had the option to switch services, i did. the only thing to switch to was SBC. hate their billing — always seems to come out to more than they originally quoted, and i had to change my local plan a few times before it settled down — but that doesn’t seem much different than any other phone company. (what evil forces are behind this whole mess? smells distinctly like gov’t contract work…..) they had a deal on SBC Yahoo! DSL when i switched, so i signed up for it.

    didn’t have any real probs with the DSL once i got it up and running — originally, on a Compaq laptop, running Windows 2000. always hated the obtrusive and clumsy SBC Yahoo! Browser, but was able to connect via EnterNet and not have to deal with the annoying Yahoo-ized version of Internet Explorer — as if IE isn’t bad enough on it’s own! so, i’ve beasically been happily running Firefox under Win 2000 with the DSL link on the laptop — and it’s run fine. but, a week ago, my son got a brand-spanking new Compaq Presario. So, we configure the network connection using XP’s connection wizard — click on “connect” and all looks fine……..fine, that is, until we launch a browser, or ANY other application tries to access the connection to the web — BLAMMO! — the entire system freezes. as in no mouse response, no keyboard response — can’t even Ctrl-Alt-Del and Task Manage our way out of it — have to do a hard physical shutdown of the system and reboot. even the SBC Yahoo software causes this behavior — after the initial set up, after all, it has to access the DSL connection, too — FREEZE-O!

    pain in the ass, I’ll tell you. one call to tech support — typical robotic walk-through by someone in India (no offense), during which they basically have us reboot in safe mode, disable all devices, reboot, see the same behavior, blame the OS install, and have us restore the system from the handy built-in restore partition that comes on the PC. and — same behavior. DLS connects, luanch browser, system frozen. call HP tech support — we go through the same thing. ultimately, they recommend we restore from the CDs (which no longer are shipped with a new box, so I had to pay $20 for them). they arrive in 2 days, though, via FedEx — and we use them — it’s like a 5 hour config! and — same behavior.

    anyway — what i learned today was that you should call SALES, not tech support, when you have a problem. there apparently is this “Support Tier Two,” which the first tier support people will not tell you about (though they will recommend that you use their fee tech service — for a flat $79.95, they’ll apparently help you decipher the Kaballah). so, i have an appt to talk with this level 2 dude tonight. we’l see where that goes.

    on a lighter note, though, found out that i have a month-by-month DSL contract, so I can cancel at any time (they told me) w/out a penalty. i’m a little wary of that, but if the next round of tech supoprt doesn’t get us online, i’m dropping this SBC biatch and switching to RoadRunner. hell, i don’t need a landline anymore anyways.

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    yojimbo
    Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 7:53 am
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    ya, ya, ya, ya — me again. so, the SBC second tier tech guy, who said he would be calling me personally at 7 pm to resolve my problem — never called. no surprise. so the next day, i call SBC again, manage to get through to second tier support, and talk to another guy, who actually sounds like he knows what he’s talking about. basically, he says he thinks the prob is with the PC (it’s not), and that the best thing to do is to get a 2-wire router/modem. this, he says, will completely eliminate the need for the flaky SBC browser software, and will handle the PPPoE conflicts that apparently Win XP is having with SBC.

    next day, i contact HP tech support. the guy checks the notes from my previous trouble call (those case numbers they give you really are useful if you ever follow up), i describe the problem one more time, and lo and behold, the guy says, yeah — “a recent Windows update conflicts with SBC’s software” — ! i ask him how come none of the other 6 support people from SBC, Compaq and Best Buy are aware of this — all he can say is, “i really don’t know.” we talk a bit, and he says there’s no software workaround that he’s aware of, but to solve the prob, i should get a router/modem. so at least we have the techies on the same page.

    so, i go to Best Buy. turns out they’re sold out of routers. sales dude informs me that the router still needs the modem (apparently this was my misunderstanding), but given my description of the problem, it sounded like the modem wasn’t the prob (again, we could still connect our old Win2000 laptop at home to DSL, no problems). so, i’m now pretty much set on getting a router. so i go to Circuit City, around the corner, to see if they have this router in stock — only the building’s vacant — Circuit City is gone. don’t know when that happened.

    when i was a kid, Radio Shack was prolly one of the most favorite stores for me and my pals. we particularly loved those coupons they had in their sales flyers that you clipped, and took into the store with you to get a FREE 4-D-cell flashlight — man, over the years, we must’ve each had a few of those. they illuminated our games of flashlight tag for many summers. anyway, there’s a Radio Shack about half a mile from our house, so I stop in on the way home. not only do they have the router, but they have it for the same sale price as Best Buy was advertising. i buy it, take it home and — in all of ten minutes — it’s installed, connected, and everything’s working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    yep. ten minutes.

    after spending roughly 3 hours a night for the past week and a half, after about 6 system restores from the PC’s restore partition, after spending 20 bucks on the restore CDs from HP, and doing the 5-hour restore from the discs — all we needed was a freaking router and ten minutes of our time to get everything running like your grandma’s best thanksgiving gravy.

    this, my friends, is why SBC sucks.

  27. 27
    DENISE
    Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 8:23 pm
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    I signed SBC DSL service. It costs me about 50 dollars a month. I have to pay a phone line and DSL fee. (The phone line is meaningless to me because I have a cell phone.) Besides, for setting up, the modem equipment cost $100.

    After 11 months, I moved out and disconnected. Then I found that I have been charged $200 “Early Termination Fee”. I complained to them and their reply made me crazy.

    I didn’t know that until they took $200 bucks from my bank. The representative didn’t inform me when I tell them that I had to disconnected. I didn’t sign anything when I hooked up. I didn’t stop the payment, because as an international student, I can’t run the risk of legal issues.

    Now I am using Cable DSL. I only purchased the modem in Circuit City for about $60 (after rebate). Monthly fee is $35. (The fee will be $43 after 6 months.) Absolutely no commitment is required. It’s much much faster than phone DSL. The phone DSL is outdated, and it should not exist in the market.

    I hate SBC. It sucks.

    Bottom line: Don’t use phone DSL and don’t work with SBC.

  28. 28
    jefrey smith
    Monday, August 28, 2006 at 7:00 am
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    I worked for the bastards. the first 6 years were great the last 4 in dsl hell where stupidity reigned supreme were too much. i walked away from 65k pension and benefits because i got tired of job stupidity equaling job security. i sent this letter to the ceo ed whit”less”acre and never heard 1 reply. also sent to about 20 others in his sphere of management and the 600 or so employees in the building i worked at so the company knows. i can prove all i say. as customers you dont know the half of the crap they get away with.
    (names omitted to avoid legal issues)

    I attempted to gain employment at South Western Bell since 1989. I was hired as a Temporary Cable Splicer June 1996. I was the only temporary to work overtime on loan to Installation & Repair. I was offered a permanent position about 6 weeks after I began working for South Western Bell. I was called by my First Line Manager, and told to report to his office to fill out the transfer forms for a position in Fenton. I asked him if he was dissatisfied with my performance and if that was why he was sending me to another job location, he stated if he was not happy with my work he would not have recommended me for the permanent position and I would not be working for him at all, so I must have proven myself an asset. I worked as a Splicer for 6 years. I enjoyed the work and was good at my job. I had no major issues and never had to file a grievance. I had six 1st line managers and three 2nd line managers in that time.
    I was surplussed in 2002 and offered a job at ASI as a Network Center Technician. I did not want this position because I know I do not thrive or enjoy working in this type of environment. I was not going to accept the job but when I returned to the garage my first line, , was on the phone with placement, and I was wrongly advised this was the only offer I would get, so I accepted the position. I figured I could stick it out for a while. I had no idea a while would last this long. I came into this position with the best attitude I could maintain. I did Win Backs and referrals. I also addressed all the legislative issues that SBC and CWA asked me to. I voluntarily transferred from provisioning to maintenance because I knew my troubleshooting skills and telecommunications experience would be a benefit to customer service. I have proven my self an asset at ASI. The customer e-mails and company commendations I have received prove it. I had hopes that if I did all I could to help the company in every way I could it would benefit me in returning to an Outside Group 1 Position. I have waited for a transfer to come my way. I even tried to get a transfer by opening up my scope to the complete state of Missouri. I also changed my transfer status to accept temporary positions and still was unable to secure a transfer.
    There was a time when I was proud to say I worked for the telephone company because any issue that I encountered I was able to resolve, either in person or by making a call to the correct department. And I could be assured it would be addressed and resolved. Now, when I admit to working for the telephone company I get accosted with emotions that range from anger to pity regarding the out right stupidity of our process for resolving Communications issues. I could tolerate that aspect by not admitting where I work, but I cannot escape the attitude while I am at work. And when the attitude from the customer is justified and any explanation I attempt to make just sounds like so much nonsense, that even I wouldnt accept, I have to remove myself from the situation. I have attempted to address the issues with management but the response is one of two; That is the system we have to work with or, and this is my favorite asinine reply, The security guards are only here to keep you from entering, not leaving, so if you dont like it leave. These are examples of the worst kind of management I have had to contend with in my tenure at AT&T. This leadership is unproductive and demoralizing and is one of the largest flaws with in this company.
    I can no longer tolerate my participation in the combination of company inanity and customer serviceless practices I am forced to witness at ASI and by extension the company as a whole.
    Some of the specific issues follow.
    * Nine months after I was surplussed, management realized too many Splicers were surplussed and we were not returned by seniority. That in itself is something to get aggravated with and is one of the driving forces behind my frustration. Seniority should mean more than just picking vacation and work schedules. I was advised, after the fact, that since I accepted a lateral transfer within my Force Adjustment Area that my surplus was satisfied. What ever the criterion that was used to make the decision to surplus Splicers was not made based on any consideration I had any involvement with. Because I accepted the only job I was told I would be offered I am considered satisfied for the intent and purpose of the Company and the Union. I can honestly state I have not been satisfied in any manner since I have been involved with this force adjustment.
    And when you consider that all the temporary Project Pronto techs were surplussed 6 months earlier than I was and they were able to get I&R titles, then surplussed again prior to the 9 month management realization and were able to return to the splicer title, it becomes a major issue for me and causes me to feel this action appears to be more about seniority manipulation than needs of the business.
    Those techs never should have been surplussed to begin with because they were temporary. They should have been laid off, not surplussed. I had the opportunity to transfer to Project Pronto but was told that it was a temporary position and there was no job location guarantee when it ended. Because I only had 5 years service I could not justify taking the chance of where I would have to report when the project ended. Also the hiring of all those new temporary techs was unwarranted. That should have been apparent because for the first six weeks they had no work. There were a limited number of jobs for the Cable Splicers already on the payroll and it would have been better to have experienced techs performing the work when it became available. As it turned out I was loaned to Project Pronto to complete a job that all the time had been charged off but none of the work had been completed. I worked with a few of the new employees and saw first hand their ineffectiveness, which was a result of their limited experience, training and their attitude which was negatively affected because they were temporary.
    * The procedures which AT&T operates under cause Customer Service to become a by-product of the actual goal of Closing Trouble Reports, which is what all of our Quality Reviews are based on. The attempts to quantify the vast array of issues and resolutions inherent with Telecommunications Repair are unrelated to actually restoring the service to the customer. It is desirable to know why an issue is not resolved, but when the knowing takes priority over the resolution it becomes detrimental to customer service and is incongruent with the function of the purpose of the Company as to what the customer expects. As an NCT I have no reasonable expectations of control over many of the aspects which affect the parameters I am held accountable for. There are too many uncontrollable aspects from customer availability for dispatch to untrained technicians that do not have a clue as to what a good working telephone line actually requires for dial tone, much less DSL to work. And these issues cause poor customer service which increases the aggravation and sense of futility that the customers I talk to feel.
    Good jobs in 8 hours, Repeats in 10 and 30 days, and chronic repeats are the scale in which our service levels are weighed and these measurements have taken priority over actually resolving the issues. Managements attempts to operate under budget with out overtime and with skeleton crews are adverse to the goal of meeting acceptable customer service levels. Until the Network is upgraded and aggressively maintained there are going to be delays and repeats on the services we are attempting to provide to the customer. You would think a company that understands how difficult it is to win back a customer would have a better grasp of this concept.
    Also the limited training of the Network Center Techs is a major factor in the failure of this department. If it were not for my electronics degree, prior telecommunications experience and training supplemented by my fervor for this industry I would be at a loss if I had to depend on the training I received while at ASI. This limited training creates inability which coupled with the lack of concern for performing the job with quality customer service only fosters employee and customer frustration. When I transferred into this position I was told that there was no training for the techs who were here before me. My response was that since the DSC has been operating for almost 5 years that it is not inconceivable that someone could put together a realistic training process but that seemed to great a concept to be grasped. All this combines to create an atmosphere that is difficult to work productively in. And since I sought to transfer to an outside position I have had to attempt to work around these inept procedures while maintaining satisfactory ratings which has put an additional burden on me as compared to the network center tech that does not want to transfer and does not care about the longevity of their employment since they see this as a temporary job. There have been changes in the structure of this job but customer service is still less than the level I want to be accountable for, much less associated with.
    * I was recently asked what really bothered me about my position as a Network Center Tech and my reply was hard to express as one particular item but at the top of the list would be that other employees failure to utilize all the tools at their disposal to do their job correctly adversely affects me and my ability to perform my job. Addressing the poor communications, lack of technical comprehension skills of our foreign representatives and the customers anger due to numerous failures to resolve problems the first time are the norm not the exception. And when employees seem to be able to find every reason to not do the job to resolution, instead of one reason to do the job, I get to deal with the irate customers, which fuels my sense of frustration. I am the point of contact for the customer and have had to endure their anger, which in most cases is justifiable, as a result of their frustration with AT&T. I am instructed to Go beyond the call but when I attempt to I am told by other departments that we cannot, because of an error and another department I cannot call has to fix it. Or a specific time commitment was made and missed. Or the tech dispatched to the premise does not call the DSC to verify that the issues are truly resolved. Or when I call outside managers to advise them they need their techs to return to the premise because there is no dial tone since the tech left, the manager states we cannot return and will have to reschedule for the next day. And the responsibility falls on me to inform the customer we cannot meet our commitment. And the real frustration comes because I remember, as a Splicer, when I could and did meet our customer service responsibilities, and provided quality customer service, instead of excuses.
    * I also have issues with the Company and the Union because of the way the contract we have bargained for seems to be just a suggestion instead of a rule. The first page of the Contract talks about good faith but there seems to be no attempt to apply that practice by CWA or the Company. I have held up my part of the contract. The company has consistently ignored my seniority in regards to transfers. The demonstrated ability clause is used broadly and inaccurately in its scope which should be implemented in cases where seniority is equal but the job duties and experience are dissimilar, like a Supplies Attendant attempting to become a Splicer, not when the only difference is where the actual troubleshooting work is performed, as in the case between a Network Center Technician and a LFO. To disregard seniority because I have not driven a van for the company is a poor excuse to bypass me for a transfer, especially since I drove a truck as a Splicer. And this clause does not take into consideration the background which was used as a basis for my employment with South Western Bell, which is considerably more than most of the techs I have talked to about their telecommunications training and experience.
    * CWA and AT&T have agreed to allow three year temporary positions contrary to the contract agreement of 18 months and CWA has made this concession, as I was told, as a trade off in order to restore some employees who were released due to surplus, but no concession was made in regards to my transfer situation which forces me to believe that since I am paying the maximum dues that I am not a concern for CWA. Now that AT&T has temporary employees in the position I was forced out of I have no hope of transferring anytime soon. And the recent surplus only forces me to be last in line again. I see no reasonable hope that I will be allowed a transfer in a timely manner, if at all. And continuing to persevere in this position with the poor levels of customer service that have become the norm is not what I want to be associated with.
    * Some would say that this is the way Companies operate but I disagree. The real issue is at the lower level of management. The first Line management I dealt with as a Splicer was straight forward in their approach. Their concern was job performance and that the work was completed on time. Most issues could be resolved with simple discussion. Those managers did not have time to waste on meetings; we resolved our few concerns standing by the truck at the job site. But most of the managers I have had to contend with in my 4 years at ASI have shown little regard for the overall work I performed. They only seemed to focus on ways to tell me I was not performing the work, not how to improve my performance.
    In one instance, I was the point of contact for Dish satellite contractor filtering issues at the request of my 2nd line . I accepted the extra duties but stopped when it became apparent that my manager was more concerned with separate aspects of my job performance than my overall activities. This was a simple case of his inability to realize that my attempt to go beyond the call included work that could not be quantifiable in the limited scope he was attempting to maintain. The almost god like powers of 1st lines over their direct reporting techs is limited only by their desire to use it. The requirements of this job make it easier to fail, than to meet, the 100% levels that have been set as quality guidelines, thus making it easy for disparate issues to be the motivating force when managers determine who is meeting satisfactory levels. All you have to do is compare managers and their techs and you will find inconsistency. The basic point is that the mentality of the Center Managers as compared to the Field Managers is driven by unproductive activities. The only reason I can justify for this is simply that there are too many center managers and they have too little to do. The number of redundant emails I receive attests to that fact.
    * I am still waiting for someone to explain to me how I can be on a step of discipline but be given a 100% satisfactory quality review for the year of 2005.
    * You might question if I had so many complaints why didnt I attempt to make changes. I attempted to make changes to improve this department and overall customer service because my motivation was based on gaining a transfer to an outside group 1 position and anything I could do toward that end was not beneath me.
    I offered suggestions via the Employee Suggestion Box but have never received a reply as I requested, or saw my suggestions on the feed back board.
    I suggested we move the Network Center Techs to the central offices so that we could work directly with the CO tech to address DSL issues. This would save revenues in two ways; eliminate the need to rent our current center in Earth City and eliminate multiple 1st level management positions because we would be under the CO 1st Lines.
    I suggested we return to Full tech installs to avoid causing our new customers the unnecessary aggravation of switching from a network that worked to one that we could not support. This would eliminate unproductive dispatches on denials. To off set the cost we would require the LFO to go to 5 other addresses and test for DSL availability and advise the customer, and if they were interested we could then set up the DSL and know it would work which would improve our appearance of customer service.
    I suggested we increase the monthly cost of DSL and warranty everything to improve customer perception of our service commitment.
    I suggested we set up Kiosks at Central Offices and local retailers with a DSL connection and line testing capabilities to allow the customer a 24 hour access point for testing their modem and telephone line. By giving this access to the customer we enable them to be proactive in resolving their issues. And we eliminate the need for India and the time wasted on basic troubleshooting issues. This would also free up the NCT availability to address issues that are not resolved by installing a filter correctly on the customers telephone.
    Until AT&T starts thinking out of the call center box customer service will continue to suffer. Wasting the customers time with calls to people who cannot be easily understood doesnt make any sense for a Communications company.
    I also gave a process model which would have allowed for stream lining the procedures of ticket ownership to my manager. It separated the duties of the techs within a group into specific functions so that we could address tickets in a timely manner. It was brought to the attention of the 2nd line but rejected due to ticket ownership constraints which in my opinion were geared more for micro managing the techs instead of timely customer service. And now with ticket management, WITT and ATAS the main focus of my ideas have been implemented.
    I aggressively addressed Capacitance issues that were a major cause of repeats. I advised and volunteered to teach a class but my manager would not allow it at that time. I let the issue drop since it was not important to my immediate management why should it be important to me. But after dealing with the irate customers and the issues created by foolish repeats I again addressed the issue. I tracked the tickets I handled in a two week time frame and sent the information to the 3rd Line and was told PMEI would add it to Peer Training but nothing has been done to address the issue center wide. The only manager who actually took any interest in improving customer service on this issue was and he had me train his techs.
    I am resigning from AT&T as an Network Center Tech due to the aggravation of incompetent management and the frustration of inept procedures that consistently fail in attempting to provide quality and sensical customer service coupled with the doubt of a timely transfer to an outside Group 1 title has caused me personal issues, which have negatively affected my attitude and quality of life. In this case the fear of the Known is greater than the fear of the Unknown. Better living through chemistry is only an option if you enjoy what you are doing. Taking meds to entice a positive attitude is a poor substitute for a good reason to continue working in this position at AT&T.
    Until recently attempting to transfer back to an outside position was my goal. Now getting out from under the Company and the Unions manipulations of the contract, that have negatively affected my ability to transfer to a job I enjoy, is my final goal. Four years of this nonsense is more than enough for me. Maybe if I had hired into this job, and not as a Splicer, then I could contend with the issues, but since I remember when I had pride in what I did and that I was able to make a real difference for the customer, I cannot in good conscience continue to be a part of this endeavor. And maybe if the majority of the managers I met here appeared to be motivated by more than their yearly bonus they would be more vocal about the failings in customer service instead of just shrugging and stating they cant make any changes to the system we have to work with. Why it is not being addressed more aggressively and timely is something I cannot surmise, that it should have been is a long over due conclusion. Just because on a report it appears we are DELIGHTING EVERY CUSTOMERĶ ONE AT A TIMEĶ. it might be beneficial to consider who is generating that report.
    I am disappointed I am not getting to my goal of 30 years and retirement at AT&T but I guess I can truly say I know what it means to be a customer and be disappointed in AT&T.
    Jefrey
    Displaced Splicer

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